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a question for thelemites [Sep. 19th, 2006|03:11 pm]
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If you had to create a list of the top 5 values/virtues of a thelemite what would you list?

I need to know for a project I am working on-

oh and AAARRRGGGG (a nod to national talk like a pirate day)
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[User Picture]From: asicath
2006-09-19 09:01 pm (UTC)
What is the project?

This line from liber Al is a perfect answer.

AL 2:20 Beauty and strength, leaping laughter and delicious languor, force and fire, are of us.

Here is Crowley's comment from The Comment called D, written in the later part of his life.

1 & 2:
Beauty and strength, the sense of the fitness of the object perceived as a symbol of the success of one’s will, and the power of that will itself;

3 & 4:
Leaping laughter and delicious languor, the rapture of joyous uprush in full freedom of spirit and the delight that follows the success of one’s efforts, luring the victor to enjoy the pleasure of knowing himself worthy;

5 & 6:
Force and Fire, the ardour of motion, achieving one’s will, and the light and heat evolved by the love under will of the Self and its desires: these are the marks of those who know their True Self to be Hadit.
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[User Picture]From: trueheart
2006-09-19 09:18 pm (UTC)
1) Independence
2) Integrity
3) Industrious
4) Fraternal
5) Generous

I be not feelin' wenchy this day. My Arrr don't have the bite it should be havin'!
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[User Picture]From: ihateswine
2006-09-20 03:36 am (UTC)
arrrrgh! here be the virtues of a Thelemite true, matey! in no particular order:

-the ability to find & do one's will
-the ability to effectively spread the law
-the ability to be self-sufficient
-the capacity & need for great amounts of Love
-the ability to not give a fuck what people think about you, and to be unapologetic.

and if ye scurvy dogs be scared of Davey Jones' Locker, then surely ye shall walk the plank!
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[User Picture]From: undercrypt
2006-09-20 03:40 am (UTC)

R!

Let's see if I can come up with five in my soggy brain.
  1. Independent in thought.
  2. Tolerant.
  3. Perceptive.
  4. Courageous.
  5. Assiduous.
I guess I can. Cool.
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[User Picture]From: iamsquid
2006-09-20 07:13 am (UTC)
in no specific order and speaking purely for myself:

1. intelect
2. emotinal strength
3. rationality
4. creativity
5. independence (especially in thought)
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[User Picture]From: woosh
2006-09-20 03:38 pm (UTC)
ok so as I have been discovering: we all have slightly different ideas-

I teach people in large organizations that when the values of the organization are clear to all of the players the results are much greater than if they are unclear- that is the VERY VERY scaled down -nutshell version, if you look at the value statements of the OTO Grand Lodge listed on the website-they are not what comes to the top of everyone's mind-this tells me -if I was speaking as a corporate consultant that the order may not be achieving the results it is looking for and by leaving wiggle room you will get varied results-

I could go on and on, but I think that it would be valuable to do workshops with OTO groups where I discussed the values listed and collected the values that the members thought-and explained what I do for a living-which is to help large organizations create and communicate clear value statements (all of ours are not yet) and get those to the masses.

This is the short version-if you are interested ask me sometime about the long version---

I feel sick still....sucks
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